Southern Brooklyn

Open Thread Mondays: Special Election Edition


Okay, so the latest special election – pitting Democratic City Councilman Lew Fidler versus Republican attorney David Storobin for former State Senator Carl Kruger’s seat – has been a particularly hard-fought one. And most of that fight was below the belt.

We’re not going to get into details. Mainly because we’re as disgusted as most of you at seeing what should have been a race on local issues turn into a klustersuck of identity warfare, dividing or alienating significant portions of this community.

But that doesn’t mean we should take the all-too-tempting path of turning our backs on the process altogether. In fact, a careful consideration of the campaigns’ direction could lead one to conclude that the reason it got as twisted and dreary as it did is because too many of us – sane, unaffiliated moderates that comprise the district’s majority – are not only disengaged at the local level, but that our voting rates during special elections are so low that it forces campaigns to play to radical bases that vote as a bloc.

So, no, turning our backs on the process is no longer a solution to this problem, but an enabler of it.

So if you want a better performance next time around – which isn’t very far away, given that the winner will again be up for election this November – make sure to vote tomorrow, and prove to the powers that be that their communities are more diverse than their campaigns suggest.

Find out if you live in State Senate District 27 and where you can vote in tomorrow’s special election.

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  1. I got three phone calls just this morning alone asking me to vote for Storobin.  Two of them were from Rabbi So-and-so as if just because a rabbi is telling me to do something I have to listen because I don’t have a mind of my own.  Please don’t insult my intelligence.

  2. My mother is being absolutely harassed by phone calls, both robo-calls and live calls from both sides. There ought to be a law against this, but I wouldn’t trust these 2 bozos to make such a law.

  3. I’ve gotten one or two mailings every single day from each candidate.  They don’t bother me because it’s the only way for the candidates to get their message out.  It’s the phone calls that are annoying and need to be stopped.

  4. If I ever got a phone call from ANY religious institution advising me to vote for a candidate then I’d NEVER vote for that candidate. 

    I’m a strong supporter of the separation of church and state so there’s no way i’m voting for someone that a religious institution wants me to vote for. My own personal support for that candidate would have to be immense for me to overlook the religious interference.

  5. Bullshit. It’s called the internet. Anyone who intends to make an educated vote is going to research their candidates online. They’ll check the candidates websites and any neutral websites they could find to check their records and qualifications.

    Political Mailings are a waste of money, period.

  6. I think you severely underestimate the number of seniors in the district and how many rely on traditional media and mailings. Seniors vote in huge numbers. I also think the candidates over estimate the effectiveness of robocalling and don’t realize how much people hate them.

  7. Those seniors are hardly educated voters, in fact they are often easiest to manipulate and fear monger. Eventually these “old timers” are gonna die out and the current internet savvy generation will take its place. 

  8. I keep getting at least 3 phone calls per day from Fidlers offce, I just disconnect them.  I received 3 mailings from his office on Saturday.  All 3 letters were the same.  They went into recycling.  Why are they wasting all this money?  People know who they want to vote for – nobody needs to be reminded of the crap heads who are running.

  9. Wow, I wonder how the next generation will talk about you and your peers in another 50 years.  They will say, “Eventually these “old timers” who believe all that shit they read on the internet will die off and the current savvy generation will take its place.”

  10. I’m sure they will, that’s the way of things. It’s a fact of time. The real question is how interested and educated will the new generation be, and how much will they care to begin with.

  11. Age discrimination in its most blatant form, brought to you by Mr. Borko…. Seniors not educated? Hmmm, the education system is better now? I think not!

  12. I really cannot believe you said that, much less believe it yourself. Just because they move slowly doesn’t mean they think slowly. Forgive me, but that is a truly egregious, narrow-minded stereotype.

  13. A religious institution supporting a political candidate doesn’t exactly violate the separation of church and state. 

  14. The Internet-savvy generation is hardly as savvy in some matters as older people who recognize the role citizens have to play in ensuring that our government is “of the people, by the people, and for the people”. Many younger people do not even vote. These people do, even if it is inconvenient and difficult for them to get to the polls.

    The Internet is not the only world. And I dread the day when there is nothing left but your “internet savvy” generation, because the wisdom of the generation you disparage will be lost. And that will be everyone’s loss.

  15. The first mailing I received was a ad by Storobin claiming he was the only real Jew in this race, standing with a bunch of orthodox rabbis,stating also that he opposes gay marriage & abortion. then I got 5 calls from othodox rabbis , & 1 call from Marty Markowitz for Fidler.The rabbis want the taxpayers to fund all the religious schools. Long live the seperation of chuch & state

  16. Not everyone has access to the internet, since it can be costly to a person/family on a tight-budget, and many don’t consider it a necessity. Also not to mention,  not everything on the internet is reliable. Also not everyone is proficient or skilled in the navigation of the internet.

    Also mailings do help support the post office at least, but yes it is also a sieve in funds if people just toss them out. I’m one of the people who toss them, and would love to opt-out if possible.

  17. Studies done by the Borko Institute indicate that people who do not have access to the Internet become feeble-minded and old. Their report suggests that all voting be done through the Internet, with people’s MAC addresses being on file with Board of Elections.

  18. Look, It’s a generalization. It doesn’t apply to all senior citizens. There are exceptions and extremes on either side of the scale. No matter how wise some senior citizens are there are just as many or more that are as clueless and oblivious as they were when they were young and follow and latch on to the propaganda from those mailings without a second thought.

    Being old doesn’t make you smarter. Wisdom and Experience are worthless if you don’t have the intelligence to apply them and we all know how smart the average person in this country is. 


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