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86th Street’s Meats Supreme To Close Tomorrow After Decades In Bensonhurst

Meats Supreme's Bensonhurst location, which is closing tomorrow. Photo by Hannah Frishberg
Meats Supreme’s Bensonhurst location, which is closing tomorrow. Photo by Hannah Frishberg

Local grocer and butcher Meats Supreme will be closing shop in Bensonhurst for good following tomorrow’s hours after many decades in the neighborhood.

“Between this and the Carvel on Bath Avenue being sold, my neighborhood will never be the same,” an area resident bemoaned via email on the meat market’s closing.

Despite tomorrow being Meats Supreme's last day in business in Bensonhurst, the shelves were fully stocked. Photo by Hannah Frishberg
Despite tomorrow being Meats Supreme’s last day in business in Bensonhurst, the shelves were fully stocked. Photo by Hannah Frishberg

Meats Supreme’s Bensonhurst location at 2229 86th Street is a longtime neighborhood landmark, one of four branches of the gourmet market and catering chain. The other three locations are in Mill Basin, Gravesend, and a second Bensonhurst branch at 1949 86th Street. According to employees, the other stores will remain open with normal hours. “Hopefully it’ll be better,” an employee at the Gravesend branch said with a laugh, regarding how the Bensonhurst’s branch closure will impact his customers.

A landmark southern Brooklyn grocery store, Meats Supreme has been in the borough since 1951. Their slogan is “Where Brooklyn Goes to Shop”. In addition to their eponymous meat section, their stores also features a deli, grocery department, and a bakery.

A sign posted on the front door. Photo by Hanna Frishberg
A sign posted on the front door. Photo by Hannah Frishberg

“This neighborhood has changed,” area resident and Meats Supreme customer Raymond Rooney said of the store’s closing, shaking his head.

In all caps, a sign outside the store, which is located under the elevated subway on a street dense with other, largely Asian, supermarkets, thanks its patrons for their years of service and announces the closing date as Saturday, October 15. According to a store employee, the sign was put up earlier this month.

Why the Bensonhust branch of Meats Supreme is closing is unclear, and employees and managers claimed to not know why.

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  1. Likely to be replaced by a Chinese chicken slaughter house.
    Anyone that still lives there that has for decades and has no problem with this may you get Kung Fued on Bay Parklay and Clopsey.

  2. The rent must be sky high because I would think this location does more business than the on on 86th and 19th.

  3. I believe that is their largest location. I’d bet the lease is up, and the landlord figures he can get more by redividing into two stores. I wish they would fix up the one near 20th Ave to be as nice as this one was.

  4. Too bad although I didn’t shop at this Meat Supreme because of the problem parking and shop at the one located on Avenue U and West 6th Steet where I never have a problem parking. The entire area is changing and it’s sad to see all these stores that have catered to the Italian community closing down.

  5. I’ve always preferred the 1949 86th Street location. The 2229 86th Street store became a “wannabe” gourmet shop — similar merchandise as other stores in the neighborhood at higher prices.

  6. I love this store. Meat is always fresh, knew everyone from the cashier, deli men/women on a personal level. Could always custom order anything I needed. Thank you Vinny, Bart, Lorraine, Marcus, George, JoJo, Eli and everyone else here. You all will be missed.

  7. Ha ha ha, damn, Adam, back with the racist comments?

    It’s funny how people always use that excuse when they say or do something shitty.

  8. Yes….a racist against a breed of people that take over and never spend a dime on anything other then their own culture. That won’t learn English…that laugh at you behind your back That’s why everything is closing down…that’s why I got the hell out of Chinkyhurst….it is a disgrace to my forefathers that built up the neighborhood. I’d like to see them try to move into a black neighborhood….they would get killed.

  9. What a racist comment! You are just jealous. Many of us know English, have high education and spending power. Many of us also go to Meat Supreme for many years and we are sad it’s closing too. Go get some education!

  10. The fact that you think violence is the right approach speaks more to your ignorant character than it does the values of Asians.

    I for one am glad you “got the hell out of” Bensonhurst – we don’t need close-minded imbeciles like yourself polluting an otherwise beautiful neighborhood with your hateful rhetoric.

  11. If they never spent a dime then they couldn’t possibly be “taking over”. If I’m not mistaken many people native to the neighborhood are moving out because they sold out. They chose money and moved to Staten Island and Chinese people spend millions on their houses. You’re so ignorant to be making these comments. I think you oughta move out of chinkyhurst. Quit blaming an entire race for a issue you know nothing of. Theres plenty of whites and Asians who live in “black neighborhoods” and don’t get killed.

  12. Tomorrow marks the one year anniversary of me and my family leaving that rotten chinkyhurst. I now live in a small city in Virginia. Everyone speaks English. We sit on our porch in the morning enjoying coffee and neighbors say hello. People work in factories producing American products that helps the economy. People will help you during a snowstorm and snowblow your drive way for free…unlike the Mexicans running around trying to make a quick buck. People help each other by passing around used clothes for the needy ALL THE TIME. teenagers get jobs in eateries…another job the Mexicans are stealing from deserving BORN AND BRED AMERICANS.

    People buy American cars and products. There are still Mom and pop stores.Neighbors greet new neighbors with home made preservatives. People watch each others children. People will help you with repairs.
    People help care for pets. This is what America should be. Not Immigrants taking over and not giving two fucks about adopting to the american way.

    I guess my problem is I think back to the old days when our neighbor gave my mom fresh Basilagol for Sunday’s gravy. When my friend’s mom would invite me over for fresh matzo ball soup. When kids played in the streets with each other. When the library was a learning facilitary. When houses proudly flew the American flag.When store fronts signs were writen in English not Gobbledegook.

    So Vinny F U….enjoy the swill you live in. I am out of that Chink/Mexican/camel jockey/ of a fuckin’ slum you love!!

  13. businesses are affected by the market.. not the community. BJ’s down the street definitely helped this meat market right?

    mom and pop stores can’t survive in ny because of the high rent.. another product of gentrification, not the chinese moving in.

    “I guess my problem is I think back to the old days when our neighbor gave my mom fresh Basilagol for Sunday’s gravy. When my friend’s mom would invite me over for fresh matzo ball soup. When kids played in the streets with each other. When the library was a learning facilitary with books in English to educate the youth.. When houses proudly flew the American flag.”

    So move next to your old neighbor? Or your friends mom? Sound like a discriminatory bigot who isn’t getting what they want. I hope the next asian you befriend looks at you with disgust and says damn I guess my problem is that you’re not chinese, don’t speak chinese, don’t give my parents chinese treats.

    The library is not a learning facility anymore? Or in your words facilitary?

    Education is the greatest equalizer, and doesn’t discriminate. Those who want to learn will survive, those who don’t will.. move.

    Glad you guys moved to virginia, since the community is small you will be able to clearly see the lack of impact you have on your community, like how Brooklyn will not crumble at the slightest with the move of your family.

  14. You’re most likely Italian though you wouldn’t want to admit it. First of all, the Italians of old Bensonhurst were leaving the neighborhood in the 1980s. The Italian population use to be close to 100% but it’s now down to 22%. This didn’t happen overnight. The Chinese started trickling in during the 90s and much more after 2000. Face the facts, the new Italian generation outgrew Bensonhurst and wanted a new place to call home in Staten Island and New Jersey. Why live in a small little house in Bensonhurst while you can get twice the size for the same price in Staten Island.

    Also, Mexicans are not stealing anyone’s jobs. Think about this, if the Mexicans had a job in the states, that must mean a white person offer them the job in the first place. Almost every Italian ristorante employs Mexicans in the kitchen or for delivery. Shouldn’t you be mad at the owner instead? But he would tell you to F off if you dare call him a traitor. Italian business owners are smart enough to employ hard working immigrants, who’s willing to keep the mouth shut, take orders, and work for less money.

  15. This was coming for a long time. It is one thing to be expensive. It is another to feel like you were being gouged. They were charging Park Slope prices in Bensonhurst. The Chinese stores were killing them on price. In this economy, charging $6 a pound for ground chuck was ridiculous. When they did realize they had to come down somewhat on price, it was too late. It got to the point where I only bought stuff like bread, and eggs if on sale, in there. Sad that an institution closed its doors, but I cannot say that I am surprised.

  16. Not that you are worth responding to, you pigheaded unAmerican dweeb, but your description of good old backwater Virginia sounds a lot like Bensonhurst. Nearly all of my Asian neighbors speak English (many better than some of the older Italians in my own family). But, since American doesn’t have an official language, it’s perfectly fine that some of them do not speak English.

    We haven’t had factories here in Bensonhurst for decades, but what we do have is hundreds of mom-and-pop stores. They just happen to be run by people of Asian, Russian and Middle Eastern descent. They are doing it in the storefronts that the Italians abandoned decades ago. In the 80s, 86th Street was a wasteland of empty, graffitied storefronts. Now, it’s a bustling commercial district, creating jobs for all kinds of people.

    People here help in all kinds of situations. One of my Chinese neighbors snowblows them entire street, on both sides, every time there is snow. Yes, we have Mexican kids ringing the bell offer to shovel snow or rake leaves, but that’s because the white kids who live around here are too busy being glued to their Playstations to do it. All of my kids’ teenage friends work in eateries, everything from little cafes to bakeries to McD’s to Gargiulos.

    Personally, I prefer American made cars, but you can’t beat the fact that Honda, Toyota and Hyundai make better cars that get better gas mileage, and last longer than anything Detroit makes (btw, most “American” cars are either made in Asia, or actually owned by non-American companies). We have plenty of babysitters to watch our kids. Aside from the Asian guy with the snowblower, everyone on my block shares tools and offers a hand in repairs.

    We exchange ingredients from a wide variety of cuisines grown in our own yards with our neighbors, and they with us. My Chinese neighbors grow tomatoes that would have given my Italian uncle’s award-winning tomatoes a run for their money.

    I’ll grant you that the kids here don’t play on the streets, but damn the Wii and Playstation and the iPhone for that, not the neighbors. I volunteer at several local libraries. They are full to the brim with books in English, as well as other languages, and they are always full of kids and families, using those books (it’s not just all about the computers). Plenty of people proudly fly the American flag here. Some are even patriotic enough to make sure their flag is taken inside when it rains, and is lit up at night, as required by the U.S. Flag Code. Very few storefronts are lacking in English language signs, but again English isn’t the official language of the U.S. In fact, in the next 10 years, more people in the U.S. will speak Spanish or Chinese than speak Asian, with Arabic a close third.

    As you say, you left Bensonhurst a year ago. Be so kind as to take your bigoted, ignorant commentary, and leave the Bensonhurst Bean, too. You are gone from here, and I hope the door hit you good and hard on the ass on your way through the Verrazano tolls. The Bensonhurst you miss still exists, and it’s much better off without people like you.

  17. Very true, Ray. I have wondered for a while why a chain like Meats Supreme couldn’t beat the price at my local Russian mom-and-pop on milk and eggs. You would think they wouod have more buying power. (At the same time, my local Korean mom-and-pop touts milk at $1 per gal. more than Meats Supreme as a sale price.)

    Although we still prefer Meats Supreme for sausage and ground beef, we have moved most of our meat buying to the Asian supermarkets. The prices are great, and the quality is excellent, and there is nothing like having it cut to order right in front of you.

    Meats Supreme was also too late in their fresh vegetable offerings. Other stores got those shoppers sooner, and wasn’t scaring them off with signs that said “fresh farm-to-market” (aka over-priced). It is sad to seevthem go, but businesses need to be faster to respond to market conditions.

  18. I will not read your responSe because you have no idea what makes America great. As the Great Dave Chapelle once said…”WELCOME TO THE CHINA CLUB…CHINGING CHINGING CHOW CHOW CHING”

  19. I will not read your responSe because you have no idea what makes America great. As the Great Dave Chapelle once said…”WELCOME TO THE CHINA CLUB…CHINGING CHINGING CHOW CHOW CHING CHINK CHINK”

  20. Let’s get real, Meats Supreme only survived for so long because there were no other options in the neighborhood. I used to go there weekly to get cold cuts for my lunches. The only other supermarket in the area at the time was Associated. But once the other markets opened, there were more options. The neighborhood may have changed but if you offer the things people want, you will not lose business. I go to Vucciria for my groceries now because they offer more variety at reasonable prices. Meats Supreme didn’t offer that. They sold organic eggs for $5 and next door sold it for $4. Where would I go for eggs? Meats Supreme also had a phase where they had trouble getting rid of expired items. Let’s not even get started with their cashiers who would rather chat among themselves than actually do their job. It was just overall unpleasant there. It’s unfortunate that Bensonhurst has lost another non-Asian and non-Russian market. But they didn’t change with the neighborhood and they suffered the consequences. I don’t see Vucciria suffering and they have all different types of customers. I grew up with Meats Supreme and now it’s gone. I hope something just as worthy takes its place.

  21. What makes America great is diversity. But you go ahead and stand in the corner holding your breath until you turn blue, and the world passes you by.

  22. Your forefathers didn’t build up the neighborhood. They turned a tranquil quiet place into an ugly sprawling city. THAT is a true disgrace!

  23. I see what has happened here, this POS can’t afford to live in NYC anymore. It’s ok, you made the right decision moving your family (wife aka sister) to Va. Finish that GED and the $8/hr job can be a reality for you. You can get that 1997 all american Buick you been dreaming to own, and maybe even that front tooth your “wife” wanted all these years. Not even sure why your reading the bean when you don’t even live here anymore more, effectively your racist backward comments don’t mean shit here so get back on your john deere and stfu. The only thing keeping America great is less people like you . Ohh and FU and have a nice day. You fit right in in Va. “Don’t bother replying I refuse to read your comments” hahahha what a joke your are!

  24. The Chinese are probably the most tolerant people you will ever come across in your life. If you go into any Italian food store or bakery you will see Chinese shopping there. I am not Chinese and I shop in the Chinese markets because they have a large variety of items and are affordable and yes, they speak English.
    You must be very self conscious if you think these people are laughing at you behind your back.

  25. …. and that word is “mensch” which is the Hebrew word for a good, decent human being. All you said above is correct. There’s nothing you can do with a bigot- and whose ancestors were immigrants to this country as well.

  26. Why the hatred… why the racist…. You’re probably the idiot that left too soon.. Your home would have probably worth a lot more today with all the chinese moving in… Get over it.. and glad you over the fuck out… racist asshole…

  27. Another Trump support… you fucking idiot… idiot… my guess you in your 60s and waiting to die… goood life in hell

  28. yeah yeah..awesome.. one less racist bastard in bensonhurst…. good luck voting for Trump…

  29. About ‘black adam’ – once a racist always a racist. You good people shouldn’t waste your time or energy – he’s not worth it.

  30. I never voted in my life…I’m not in my 60’s and you are the result of a woman having sex with 4 guys in one night!

  31. Look at your hatred……you even started a fake account. That Draino your mom dueched with failed because you some how survived a botch abortion!

  32. Quite so, DedHed56. I guess they don’t have much to do for entertainment in the backwoods of Ole Virginy. Black Adam was always a second-rate villain in the Shazam comics. Mr. Mind the talking worm was a more worthy opponent for Captain Marvel than B.A.

  33. Awww did I hurt your feelings you dirtbag piece of trash? Atleast my mom is not my sister/wife inbred POS. Walmarts hiring, oh wait you’re grossly unqualified…..Trump will make your life great again Buwahahahah Can you believe this this shit stain of a person said look at my hatred?!?!? Stop hating on people you are blaming for your worthless life. Your pathetic life is your own doing, own up to it. Enjoy VA because NY thinks you suck!

  34. The baby sitter lets you stay up late while your mom is on CLOPSEY avenue sucking cock to feed her heroin addiction……your Dads…all 5 that fucked your mother on that horrific night you were ill conceived. CLOPSEY avenue…..where the first thing the Mexicans stole was your bloody asshole. CLOPSEY avenue where you plot how you can make money licking the balls of the born terrorists occupying half of Shore Haven.
    And what is this obsession you have with that asshole Trump?
    Is it the jealousy that the only way you can get laid is the little phillipino kid down the block. Keep your fuckin’ New York….Keep your fuckin’ hatred of the real America….And keep keep your Fuckin’ hatred of your self….you can’t even look in the mirror without puking.

  35. did you marry your cousin or sister? you have mental issue must be your Father who you call cousin larry. HAHAHAHAAHAHAH

  36. Your comment makes you an idiot… fuck on!!! .. You are what they call the trash of society.. roll over and grow a cancer… damn.. that’s a bit hash… roll over and grow some balls….

  37. That’s right you worthless piece of trash get angry!……Get all that hatred out, it will make your pathetic life that much better. My job is done here, don’t get too riled up you may have a stroke and who will take care of your worthless family….welfare only goes so far in your great America. Bueahahaha That’s what POS’s like you and your kind get. Hate life, hate yourself, hate your family for making you into a hate mongering racist piece of shit you are. Peace bro!

  38. HA HA HA HA HA!!!
    I am not angry…I am happy.
    I love kickin’ little kids when they are down, junior.
    I love being a douchebag to clueless sheep.
    I don’t have to live in the filth anymore.
    so long sonny.

    Evil Out!

  39. You’re not evil you dumb old shit for brains….You’re just Bitter! The filth left Brooklyn not the other way around. The only sheep you know are the ones you sodomize Jeb. Evil…..that’s cute….cream puff!

  40. 50% of the Italians from old Bensonhurst have already moved on to new digs in NJ, SI, or LI. This was well before the Chinese arrival. Don’t fret over the stores closing down. The owners will reopen new businesses in NJ, SI, and LI.

  41. It’s like this with every culture. Everyone knows Italians prefer taking express buses to Manhattan to avoid the black people on the subway. White people have no right to dare anyone to move into a black neighborhood when it was 2,000,000 whites who ran away from NYC during the ‘white flight’ 1970s.

  42. Of course, I mean wouldn’t you do the same? Do you honestly believe some 18 Italian kid will work for less? He ain’t going to work for no $5 an hour. The Italian restaurant owners know better.

  43. Actually, the servers and busboys at Gargiulos are almost exclusively white, non-Latinos, and they make more then $5/hour. And there are plenty of other restaurants around who pay about the same, with mainly non-Latino front-of-house staff.

  44. why is Black Adam even posting here? he really must be home sick much? loser that moves hundreds of miles away but still stalks old neighborhood news after a year..hahaha LOSER. get over it.

  45. The restaurants you’ve referring to are the exception. There are just as many Italian or white owned restaurants that employ Mexicans. Besides, you just proved my point anyway. The 18 Italians kids are not going to work for less as this explain why Mexicans are therefore employed.

  46. He’s no Italian. With a word like “Basilagol”?!
    Please. He’s a white American, e proprio un disgraziato! Scustumato! Capo di cazzo!
    Io sono italiano. Solo io, e nobody else. Excuse me, but don’t they have a moderator to remove this merda? Why they have comments here? So lowlife people can hide behind their computers and say things they would never say in public? Because some stupid fake meat store closed down? If they had the good meat, they would still be open. And every comment that follows, just as stupid as the first. Che vergogna!

  47. The Chinese are some of the most tolerant people you will ever meet in your life. They work hard and do not have time to sit at a computer and write nasty comments about anyone. They could teach you honesty and decency

  48. I think that saying has outlived its applicability. It made a good point when donuts were 40 cents each, but now that a Dunkin’ Donut goes for $1.19, it’s no longer a losing proposition. 🙂

  49. 86th is an abomination. Please tell me how many fruit stores and Chinese restaurants we need in the span of 5 blocks.

  50. Apparently, we need all of them. They are doing booming business. 86th Street hasn’t been this successful a commercial district since the 60s. By the 80s, when I was hanging out there with my friends, it was a wasteland of empty, graffitied storefronts. Now it is busy stores all along. Even the ones that do close are swiftly replaced.

  51. Yes, the Mexicans pay taxes just as you do. They pay at their jobs and everywhere else including the local supermarket.

  52. Any failure in those tax payments is the fault of their employers. If the employer keeps them off the books, and doesn’t withhold, shame on the employer.

  53. You’re assuming that all Mexicans illegals. That might be true for some maybe many but not all. Also, despite not paying taxes, anyone who lives in the country has to spend money and this helps the economy. Money has to circulate or everyone else will be out of business and no one survives. Taxes or no taxes, illegals still makes the country move.

  54. You mean “second world”. China and the Middle East are second world.

    And if by “dump”, you mean “amazingly great place to raise a family in an inclusive neighborhood that encourages diversity”, then yes, by all means, I agree it’s a “dump”. People who think otherwise have the option to move away.

  55. All over. Beautiful brick facades replacing run-down aluminum siding. Gorgeous exotic flowers replacing drab, unoriginal “lawns” or patio block. Colorful storefronts thronging with all sorts of people replacing empty, gated, graffitied storefronts. The amazingly complex and delicious smell of myriad cuisines replacing the homogeneous smell of onions, garlic and tomato sauce.

  56. So you could have a snack while you were shopping. Neigh! Neigh! Oh,Wilbur! Just kidding; it was thrown on the floor because it was absorbent, held down dust and made sweeping up easier.

  57. JoJo was my absolute favorite. I stopped shopping there a few years ago because I thought it was prohibitively expensive.

  58. The problem is: We don’t live in NJ, SI or LI. We live in Bensonhurst. That’s why we read this publication. DUH!!!!!!

  59. Right, as I’m explaining why Bensonhurst is no longer predominantly Italian. The shrinking Italian population in Bensonhurst have nothing to do with the influx of Chinese immigrants. The Italians have long left to NJ, SI, and LI.

  60. well i see 86st as a 3rd world marketplace,no one speaks our language.this is america,you come you assimilate.i see spitting,nose blowers with no tissues and other slob behaviour.i went to a chinese restaurant one sat and it was a zoo,loud,dirty and just unamerican.this is not what we want here.sorry.overcrowded with illegasl and immigrants who only shop int heir countries stores.etc

  61. diversity?wow a communist term eaten up by the braindead.no country survives an unassimalated people.e pluribus unum.
    wake up.i am for immigration but slow and assimilated.we now allow anyone to flow in.the roman empire fell the same way.

  62. To MIke Cutler, I am white ( Jewish) and I shop in the Asian markets all the time. Yes, they speak Chinese to each other just as Italians speak Italian to each other in their stores, but if you ask a question they do understand and speak English very well. The markets are clean and everything is mostly neat considering how busy they are. I’ve said this before, the Chinese are the most tolerant people you will meet. It is a significant part of their culture. If you want only English and super clean please go to Utah or Wyoming. Part of the benefits of living in NYC is the opportunity to learn of different cultures and if you want to try different foods.

  63. We’ve been over all of these points on this site, ad nauseum. You are incorrect, as were the rest of the bigots. They are doing nothing different than prior immigrant communities did. Bensonhurst remains a great place to live, shop and socialize.

  64. Communists were all about assimilation and creating a homogeneous society, not diversity. America has always been about having different groups bring their different cultures here. Prior to the 1950s, very few Americans ate Italian food on a regular basis, now it is one of the strongest sectors in cuisine. There is a great episode of The Honeymooners where Ed Norton puts ketchup on spaghetti, and comments how it’s amazing to him that Alice Kramden could have eaten Italian food for lunch because it’s too rich. They come here, and WE assimilate their traditions into our own, and THEY assimilate our traditions into our own. It just takes time.

    Plus, we’ve had unassimilated cultures in America for centuries to no ill effect. Native American tribes. Hassidics. Amish. Just to name a few. We’ve survived just fine.

  65. The Italian started moving out in the 80s, if not the chinese moved in, this place was turning to be EAST NEW YORK, the chinese is making bensonhurst great again. And not just the chinese, recently I noticed there are a lot of whites who can not afford to live in downtown brooklyn moving into the neighborhurt too.

  66. I didn’t know. JoJo was on 86th Street for the last 10 years or so. I’m glad they kept her. When the N train is fixed (“IF” the N train gets fixed), I’ll stop and see her. It’s only 2 stops for me. I stopped going there about 10 years ago, because the high school cashiers they had at the time were so crude (screaming 4 letter words at each other) and unprofessional. It’s a smaller store and I think the prices are a bit lower.

  67. I feel the same way, Ray. I loved the store, but just couldn’t pay their prices anymore since I now live on a fixed income. Even the cold cuts went up to $11.00 to $14.00 per pound. Ridiculous!

  68. I, too, have no problems with the Mexicans. They work very hard and take jobs that nobody else wants. I moved, several years ago, from a smaller to a larger apartment in my building. I went out to Bay Parkway and 65th Street and hired 4 of them to do the move. I told them it would take about 2 hours for the 4 of them and I would pay each of them $15.00 per hour. They jumped at the chance. I can’t begin to tell you how hard those guys worked for that money. They finished the job in 45 minutes, but I still paid them $30.00 each.

  69. I doubt it. Bensonhurst can’t even support a Kosher deli. If there is one, I sure don’t know where it is.

  70. Actually, Italian Americans started moving out well before the 1980s. They were moving out to the suburbs in the 1950s, 1960s. If not for the wave of Italian immigration that came post-1965, there would be no Italian American presence in this neighborhood at all. It’s all the Italian immigrants who came over in the 1960s, ’70s, and ’80s after the end of immigration quotas that made this neighborhood Italian.

    Anyway, to your point: Everyone who lives in a neighborhood has the power to make it great just by being a nice person to the people around him or her.

    There’s room in a community for everyone, but there’s no doubt about one thing: when an ethnic community is lost due to lack of immigration, there’s no replacing it. The language goes, the people go, the stores go, the community goes. And, it is in fact something to mourn. But, it is not something to blame anyone for — and, certainly no reason for people to post the disgusting, hateful things you read on this board.

    It’s not only here that we see Italian American community in decline,
    but in neighborhoods such as Carroll Gardens, Williamsburg, etc. where it is white people who move in to replace the Italians/Italian-Americans. It is what it is.

  71. Your too blind to face the truth. Bitching is complaining, I’m stating facts.
    Stay in Bensonhurst. Have a good time with mud people

  72. Frank, you ignoramus, it’s “YOU’RE,” not “YOUR” and the only thing you are stating is your own bigoted, BS agenda.

  73. To be honest, although I shopped at the one near 20th more often, I thought the one near Bay Parkway would have been the one to survive. It was larger, with a more modern design and feel, and on a more heavily trafficked street. I’m guessing the retail boom on that block put the rent out of reach.

  74. I agree, though I never got a chance to go inside that one, it looked much larger from the outside! I hope we get something exciting and new.

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